I was just looking thru your site again, and wow you do know your stuff don't you. It's funny when I was a kid back in the 50's I went to school in Chertsey, (Stepgates) and mum used to take me on her bike and we used to go round the back of Chertsey Church where the Abbey stood (stands) and across the golf course (where I saw a UFO in 1986/7) back to Chertsey Lane where we lived. She always told me about the history of the area, and I always felt something special there at that Abbey ground, I still do, I love it there. The same with the Lammas and St Mary's church, I have often wandered around the church yard there searching for something... The Pagan's door probably...

Anyway I always felt something about the Staines roundabout too and in actual fact lived not far from there (Bowes Road) back in the early 80's until I moved to America. While in America I lived first in New Jersey on the east coast, and then stumbling one day upon another ancient site in Minnesota while on a trip, moved there a few years later. Pipestone Minnesota is a very sacred site to the Dakota people, it is where their ceremonial(peace)pipes come from. The site is on a vortex and I believe it too is on a ley line the same one that comes from Sedona, Arizona, that is also a very special place. I often wondered if it was on the same one that runs thru here as the feelings were always that of being home to me.

Now I move backwards and forwards between here and there, both places pull at me...... Gloria

It is interesting that the three places mentioned (Chertsey Abbey, the Negen Stones roundabout and St. Mary's, Staines) are actually on the same ley. But not only this, when the two places in America (Pipestone, Minnesota and Sedona, Arizona) are aligned on a great circle, this also passes through the West London area here in Britain and the area of the Pyramids in Egypt! At this scale, it is impossible to be precise as to whether (for example) it goes through Staines or Chertsey, or if it passes through the Great Pyramid - the band has, as Lionel Beer pointed out, a scale width of about 100 miles - but it is certainly interesting in the light of what Gloria says in her email, although it could not be the Chertsey/St. Mary's line as it is not at the right angle.

There is a ley which could be this one, though. This comes through a church in Windsor, runs along a long stretch of coincident track by Queen Anne's Gate there, through a spot which I called a "sanctuary" because of its feeling, through both memorials at Runnymede (which we had found powerful on our field trip last year, particularly the Kennedy one), through the Petters field prehistoric site, through Laleham church, Shepperton multijunction, through the prospect tower at Claremont Garden and skirting an earthwork near Epsom.

The procedure for finding the great circle was the rubber band and globe one that was used for the extensions of the E-line and St. Michael Line as great circles. The line is a great circle if the two rules are followed: the line must be a straight line all along its length when viewed from above, and the northernmost and southernmost extremes must be at the same latitude north and south (in this case 40 degrees north and south).

Coming from Sedona and Pipestone, the line goes through a part of Canada, the southern tip of Greenland, through Ireland and England to the West London area, then through France and Switzerland and running along the east coast of Italy, through Egypt and the Pyramids area (could be the Great Pyramid but once again we cannot be that precise), Sudan and Ethiopia, goes south of Austraila but passes through South Island, New Zealand and some Polynesian islands before returning to Sedona.

The ley which runs through the two monuments at Runnymede (Magna Carta and Kennedy) which we seemed to detect on our field trip last year but have only recently plotted and found goes in a direction consistent with the Pipestone-Sedona great circle line mentioned in the last issue, and has been followed on the ground at Egham Hythe, Laleham and Shepperton. Some interesting findings have emerged.

The line comes through a church in Windsor, runs along a long stretch of coincident track by Queen Anne's Gate there, through a spot which I called a "sanctuary" because of its feeling, through both memorials at Runnymede (which we had found powerful on our field trip last year, particularly the Kennedy one), through the Petters Field prehistoric site, through Laleham church, Shepperton multijunction, and skirting an earthwork near Epsom.

The ley runs along part of Pooley Green Road in Egham Hythe and through what appears to be a mound at the end of it. After this it runs along the Thames by Penton Hook, then goes through Laleham Church with its Scots pine clump (where it meets the Mixnams Lane ley - see Gloria Hazell's UFO incident in the last issue). At Laleham I enquired of the rods as to whether this was the Runnymede monuments line, and got a quick affirmative, but when I asked as to whether it was also the Sedona-Pipestone line there was, interestingly, a definite time delay before getting a yes. The width was 12 paces.

The ley continues from here to run through the junction of Pool End Close and Sheep Walk, Shepperton; the footpath from here runs roughly parallel with it, though veering a little to the north-east to go over the motorway footbridge, meeting it again at School Lane, Shepperton, where I again asked the same questions and got the same result.

The line then crosses the river to go obliquely across the north-east end of Desborough Island. This is a large island in the river formed by the Shepperton Loop, and made an island in 1935 with the cutting of the Desborough Channel. Two bridges cross the Channel from the Surrey side of the river to the island, which contains a water works and a sports field, and which has a public footpath running all round its edge; the banks are used a lot by anglers. There seemed to be earthworking of some kind both at the place it enters and the place it leaves the island.

From here it crosses Cowey Sale, near Walton Bridge, a Thames-side "beach" crowded in the summer, where, legend has it, Julius Caesar crossed the Thames. It then goes through a track junction where there is a small clump of trees.

It then runs almost coincident with Tower Grove, a private road, and goes through the fine clump of Scots pines at the end, and then a cross-roads in Ashley Park where it passes through a large double tree, and another the other side of the junction leans towards the line.

From here the line goes through a small church at West End, Esher, and on to the site of a Roman villa just north of an earthwork at The Forest, Epsom.